Is Nvidia RTX 4090 needed for iClone?

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Hello
I am planning to buy a new laptop, I saw the prices of the RTX 4090 are very high and unreasonable, so is it needed to buy for mainly IC&CC usage?, or there is a RTX series that does the job and lasts for next-gen IC requirements.
Thank you for advicing me.

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I have a 3060 RTX nvidia 12G of ram and it works nicely for my need. The amount of Ram GPU is the most important.

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I have a desktop system with a RTX 4900, but unless you work with very large scenes, a more modest card would work as well, as mtakerart points out. 12 GB would be the minimum. I have another system with a RTX 4060 Ti, which has 16 GB of VRAM.

One thing to be aware of is that laptop components, especially GPUs, are more expensive and often less powerful than the desktop equivalents.

NOTE: This is interesting, the forum has changed my identity, although I’m really animagic… :worried:

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Hey, I’m the real warped reality VFX. I think A.I. is taking over.
I hope they correct this LOL.
I have to upgrade my system.

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I was able to fix it by logging out and logging back in. At least my post was innocent, so nothing that could embarrass you… :roll_eyes:.

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I have a 3090 and an AMD 5950x (desktop) and a 3080/5900 combo (laptop) - both previous generation but high capacity, and my system still rocks iClone and Unreal.

You might look for something like that. Just be sure you have LARGE amounts of SSD storage because templates and project files for these programs get huge! Given I’m a digital hoarder, but I finally gave up and bought a NAS to store all my assets. :joy:

Also RAM can make a big difference. My experience is same as with the GPU/CPU – fast isn’t as important as capacity, although it’s nice to have.

That’s why I haven’t “upgraded” to the newer gen. Well, that and people’s computers catching on fire. :fire:

Hope that helps!

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No worries lol :laughing:

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Thank you so much @mtakerkart @animagic @3DChick for your wonderful and valuable replies :heartbeat: I had the desktop Alienware Aurora with RTX 3080ti and i9 12 gen 64gb RAM but it is huge and hungry for electricity, that’s why I wanna switch to the laptop… And with your advices I saw cheap laptop Lenovo Legion with RTX 4070 14th gen i9 and 64gb RAM i hope it can be a good choice.

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I have a GTX1080ti (11Gb) and i never met any limits with IC//CC yet. It also draws way less current then an RTX 3080 or so. Though i must state i havend made any large projects yet.

BTW: Using Nvidiainspector with a few shortcut commands let you reduce power consumption on any card significantly. An exemple shortcut below , setPowerTarget to XY would do the magic job (no guarantee)

“C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\inspector\nvidiaInspector.exe” -setBaseClockOffset:0,0,0 -setMemoryClockOffset:0,0,0 -setPowerTarget:0,100 -setTempTarget:0,0,65

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Thank you @K_Digital so much for the tip and the information, I’ve never heard of this trick before, it is very useful for nowadays Nvidia GPUs that became so hungry for power.

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I have to update my earlier answer mentioning the 4060ti, which is no longer sold with 16GB. Instead there is a 4070ti Super, which also has 16GB. I don’t know about laptop availability though.

EDIT: I was mistaken, the GTX 4060ti with 16GB is still available. :hot_face:

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Thank you so much @animagic for the clarification.

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I used to use a GTX1080Ti, now I use RTX2080Ti, RTX3080Ti, RTX3090 and RTX4090 in different systems (the one iClone runs on has the RTX2080Ti because it’s an old system). The RTX2080Ti also has 11GB of VRAM just like the GTX1080Ti but it is faster. And that, in my opinion, is a point to consider when taking into account the power draw. If the system has to wait for you (i.e. you are working interactively setting up a scene or making adjustments that do not tax the GPU) that may be fine, but if you do more heavy duty stuff (such as GPU renders or simulations that take several hours, outside of iClone of course, then GPU performance matters more than power consumption, at least to me).
Also, if a GPU draws double the power but does the job in half the time compared to a slower, less-power consuming GPU, then total power consumption is probably still less with the faster GPU, because the rest of the machine (CPU, drives, fans, memory, etc.) also need to run for less time thus consuming less.
What I’m saying is (a) consider power draw versus performance and (b) think of the requirements of other software you may use (as far as I can tell, iClone is the least GPU-performance hungry 3D application that I use, however, since I only use iClone for animating characters (usually just one at a time) in an otherwise empty scene, my demands for GPU performance/memory in iClone are small; for other applications I need all performance and VRAM I can get (even 24 GB can get tight sometimes).
And yeah, I would not consider doing any “heavy” 3D work on a laptop. I only use desktops for 3D (then again, I don’t do 3D work “on the road”, i.e. away from a power outlet). But your mileage may vary.

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I get your point.I guess it all depends on the software what gpu to choose.

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A state-of-the-art reply, you answered all things I was curious about. Gratitude. @Nirwana

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i have the 4090 and everything maxed out iclone runs great very fast but
i am getting ready for the swap that out for the 5090 soon

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The 32GB of VRAM would indeed help and from the RTX 5090 info page it seems that it is not ridiculously wide (NVDIA says 2 slots). But the power… 575 Watt! I hope they’ll do better with the power cable this time… :roll_eyes:

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Thank you @digtalzombie for reaction. So it is better to wait for the arrival of 50 series, i heard 5070 is cheaper and hadsdouble performance than 4090 with half cut power requirements

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Hi @animagic does it mean that 5070 drops less power than 4090 ?

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I wouldn’t believe that and neither do the tech YouTuber I follow. In some comparison charts it was suggested that the 5070 has roughly the performance of a 4090 in specific tests. AFAIK, that has not yet been independently verified.

As far as I can tell, even the 5090 is not twice as fast as the 4090 for non-gaming workloads.
For me (as a non-gamer) the number of CUDA cores (and the VRAM) are the primary considerations (I don’t care about the AI performance and power draw is of secondary importance); here is the data from the NVIDIA website:

4090: 16384 CUDA cores and 24 GB VRAM GDDR6X
5070: 6144 CUDA cores and 12 GB VRAM GDDR7
5090: 21760 CUDA cores and 32 GB VRAM GDDR7

So, the 5070 with less than 40% the number of the cores of the 4090 and 50% of the VRAM of the 4090 has double the performance of the 4090? If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. :wink:

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